tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2569971501728849222.post6057672200739412298..comments2023-10-29T03:55:21.701-07:00Comments on Staying Alive: THE MYTH OF SUBURBAN SURVIVALStaying Alivehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12833293437407206880noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2569971501728849222.post-22339543726589447962008-08-15T16:11:00.000-07:002008-08-15T16:11:00.000-07:00Whether or not civilization collapses isn't a ques...Whether or not civilization collapses isn't a question of when yet. It's still a question of if. We've already gone back and forth with our views on the pros and cons of city living vs country living. I can say this. I imagine that you and I vote similarly when it comes down to it. I know a lot of people that vote just like I do. These are all people that live in the city. Also, you have to be just as careful about choosing a city, suburb or neighborhood to live in as you are when choosing a retreat. <BR/><BR/>Some cities are just much better places to live than others. I live in a city of 3 million with several other million person + cities within an hour drive. We don't have vacant houses being stripped of all of their wiring. The houses in my neighborhood don't even stay on the market for more than a month before they're sold. People aren't being forclosed on left and right around here. The stories that you read are just another example of the media blowing things out of proportion and shining the spotlight on the worst possible cases and trying to pass them off as "what's really going on out there".The Urban Survivalisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02152463957382927413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2569971501728849222.post-3944650704133820622008-08-14T21:32:00.000-07:002008-08-14T21:32:00.000-07:00Only thing you can do is lead by example. That's w...Only thing you can do is lead by example. That's what I suggest! Although blowing off some steam helps every now and again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2569971501728849222.post-53140594624368145202008-08-14T21:21:00.000-07:002008-08-14T21:21:00.000-07:00I'll agree with bear and mike on this.....The only...I'll agree with bear and mike on this.....The only sure way in my book is a long driveway with a clear field of fire....Survival in the Burbs is a coin toss as you'll probably have to defend your stuff from even the LEA.... and even some of them prep and will have bugged out...I thought and still think that prepping is about giving you and yours the best chance in a society gone haywire. folks do need reminded of some of the worst parts of Katrina... There were allot of whack and stacks down there and no-one asked any questions...<BR/>I hope some of them stay in the burbs cause when they come to the country they bring burb mentality with them.... as in clear more land than you need to build and start a lawn... gotta have that lawn, right....house visible from a well marked driveway...hell you can be scoped out from the road.... always with visible wealth saying come get me. here in west Pa the burbs are getting ugly and Ohio ain't much better. If you ask me, I don't want to hear their story after they stagger out of that future wasteland,DragonDragonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02127473453909413019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2569971501728849222.post-35753172624928377922008-08-14T17:19:00.000-07:002008-08-14T17:19:00.000-07:00REBUTTAL TO "THE MYTH OF SUBURBAN SURVIVAL"Michael...REBUTTAL TO "THE MYTH OF SUBURBAN SURVIVAL"<BR/><BR/>Michael wrote: <I>"I was reading some suburban preppers blog this morning and he bragged about how 50% of the bloggers out there in cyberspace were from the burbs. And he said they out numbered the "outlanders" and were a force to be reckoned with. My question is where do we go to reckon with this force? And who wants to reckon with it? What is the purpose of reckoning with it?"</I><BR/><BR/>The reckoning is not with rural preppers, it is with non-preppers and government agencies. Sheesh Michael, the guy is just enthusiastic about what he is trying to do.<BR/><BR/>Not everyone in suburbia is as you describe, your rant is pure bigotry. Your post is every bit as lopsided and nasty as anyone that suggests every rural person is an uneducated, stupid, redneck hick. Some folks need to work in the city or you would not have the guns, gloves, and boots you write about. They are manufactured in cities and suburbia, not on the farm. Ditto for the equipment you use to maintain your 3000 acres. <BR/><BR/>When a suburbanite comes to the conclusion they cannot leave suburbia (for whatever reason) and then choose to make the best of it by becoming prepared, those fortunate enough to be in rural America ought to at least be glad for them. Those a tad more mature might even be encouraging to the suburban prepper. The suburban prepper is still a prepper, and just like the rural prepper, they are doing the best they can with what they have - and where they are. Worst case; they thin out the "Golden Horde" for their rural cousins. <BR/><BR/>There are plenty suburban folks without "toxic mortgages", many without any mortgage at all. How in the world can you lump everyone in suburbia together? Have you ever been to a city? There are lots of rotten people there, sure. There are also one heck of a lot of very fine, upstanding lovers of Liberty that pay their own way, stay out of debt, and vote the same way you do. <BR/><BR/>Sheesh Michael, are you trying to create division in our tiny prepper community? There are not anywhere near enough folks prepping, and here you are ripping into half of them. <BR/><BR/>CERT is about training, I have been through the course and I am a certified CERT trainer. What do you really know about CERT Michael? Obviously nothing. <BR/><BR/>Surprise Micheal - there is water in the city! Not all of it is in pipes. Suburban preppers are figuring out water solutions daily. They are smart enough to keep their yaps shut so that these sources are not ruined by some bureaucrat. There are many places in suburbia to plant a hidden garden, including some neighbor's yards. This is a no-brainer for suburban preppers. Heating and other needs also have solutions in suburbia, not everything is limited to just your thinking Michael. You might limit your posts to things you actually know something about.<BR/><BR/>CERT teams are composed of thinking people Michael. They put up with the FEMA garbage to get the training, and that is an excellent start. CERT teams are, by and large, made up of smart, caring and good-neighbor-type people. They choose to be ready for whatever comes. Exactly what you <I>claim</I> to be. <BR/><BR/>Do you have the b***s to post this, or are you the coward you accuse others of being? Having b***s is one thing, but being man enough to apologize, without qualification, is what I hope you are. That would tend to bring preppers from <I>all of America</I> together.<BR/>SamSamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15398692325500641956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2569971501728849222.post-23421119340517824462008-08-14T16:19:00.000-07:002008-08-14T16:19:00.000-07:00Could you have fit a few more suburban stereo-type...Could you have fit a few more suburban stereo-types in this post? C'mon, think on it. There must be another 38 or so.ElderGuru.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16362712555356405003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2569971501728849222.post-82363321582618588892008-08-14T12:58:00.000-07:002008-08-14T12:58:00.000-07:00There are two mindset here.Society is going to hic...There are two mindset here.<BR/><BR/>Society is going to hiccup<BR/><BR/>Society is going to collapse<BR/><BR/>Most suburban dwellers follow the hiccup theory. There will be a bad time then things will return to normal. Think natural disaster. Their great investment in the American dream will be maintained.<BR/><BR/>Most rural dwellers believe society is moving towards a gigantic collapse followed by anarchy and death. (I believe this) Think nuclear war or viral population reduction. <BR/><BR/>Just ask yourself this one question<BR/><BR/>What will you do when the electricity goes off and the natural gas stops flowing?BigBearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11552206865163220761noreply@blogger.com